Post by PerseusPost by Rod SpeedPost by Red CloudPost by SNORDOPost by walt tonneThe average Mexican IQ has been reported by some dozen reputable
sources, including the Pew Hispanic Research Institute, as from
82 to 87 points. This compares quite unfavorably with the
average white American IQ of 100 to 104 points. Thus, the
average Mexican has an IQ 22 to 17 points lower than that of
white Americans, which undoubtedly helps to explain with people
of Mexican ancestry have much higher crime rates, higher prison
populations, much higher high school dropout rates, much lower
college graduation rates, much more difficulty in learning to
speak the American English language, much lower income from
employment, much higher birth rates, much more difficulty with
assimilating into American society, etc. than do white
Americans.
just like hillbillies
the Latinos are a little higher in IQ than the fundamental
Christians of the bible belt and the Midwest. And this is the
reason why fundamentalist are downgrading the IQ of the Latinos.
The most religious is someone the lower is his IQ. And the fundies
are the most retarded in questions of IQ.
Perseus
Here in West coast, Hispanic is at the lowest score earner just
same level with
Negro race. The highest score earner is Asian, not white. Hispanic
high school
drop-out rate is over 50%.
http://www.vanguardnews.com/school/stories1999/99schooltest.htm
Those good schools are Asian zone mixed with White students.
Bad school are demographically Hispanic mixed with negro race.
this question of IQ is totally misunderstood. It is not anything
genetic. It is mostly cultural. People with high incomes have a
greater probability of educating their kids a home and teach them
language well. In fact, both parents have more tome to educate them
not only in language, but also some basic numerical operations.
Numbers are closely related to language. Children that do not learn
well the language, have a greater probability of not knowing well
numbers.
Then, most of the poor people are enslaved working long hours,
sometimes in two jobs, and had little time to educate their kids.
Then, when they go to school it is like going to a foreign country
to study, and you barely know the language. The retard is never
corrected in the whole life of this children.
So, when you make a test of intelligence, basically you are testing
the language ability of the child. Not only with ordinary words, but
also with nuances of the language. Some of the items of the tests,
at least the Standford test, proves the ability of the child to make
mental operations with numbers, adding or subtracting to answer a
question. Then, all those that do not understand well the language
are not going to answer most of the questions of the test.
All the tests invented later, after the test of Lewis Terman of
Standford, only prove the test is a derivative of the time parents
had expended developing the intelligence of their kids. That in
general can be seen when you watch the care intelligent parents
invest in developing the mind of their kids. It is a sort of
quality time,
that some geniuses have not, for they pass too much time absorbed in
their work, and do not take enough care of the children.
For developing a mind to a degree of being a genius is a very
intensive dedication; a little like become a genial pianist, or a
world champion of chest.
So, intelligence in general is a question of training, and mostly to
start early with it. So poor people have not a model to increase the
intelligence of their children, not the time to do it themselves.
They are mostly enslaved to survive and had not time not any fancy
for such niceties as developing an intelligence of their children.
Anyway, what has to complain this stupid, when Latinos are mostly
used to wash plates in a restaurant, shower a little a garden, do
some cooking at their homes or collect vegetables by hand in a
horticultural farm ?
It is like complaining of the lower IQ of the hilly billies, or the
fundies living in the rural zones of the south of US or the Midwest.
Those fundys that home school their own kids and they STILL end up
with a lower IQ than average blows a FUCKING great hole in your stupid
pig ignorant claim that the education that they get from their
parents that determines the IQ of the kids.
As always, you dont have a fucking clue about even the most basic stuff.
you are a stupid and misunderstood what I was talking about.
You never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Post by PerseusI was talking about the initial steps in learning language and elemental numeracy.
That aint what IQ tests measure.
Post by PerseusThe most intelligent people do not wait his kids were sent to school to learn to speak
Yes, no one does. ALL kids learn to speak by mimimicing what is spoken
around them, even when no one deliberately trys to teach them at all.
Post by Perseusand to understand some basic operations with numbers, even some elemental logic.
That isnt just seen with the most intelligent people.
Post by PerseusThey teach all this to his kids at school.
No they dont with speaking.
Post by PerseusSo, by teaching them to speak, they are training
the kids to put attention to verbal language
That happens with ALL kids, not just those with the most intelligent parents or upbringers.
Post by Perseusand to reply in accordance with the matter involved.
ALL kids just rave on about anything at all, not just in accordance with the matter involved.
Post by PerseusWell, this is what I call home teaching. Even when the children are
in school, intelligent parents are very interested in supervising how
are they faring at school.
And those that choose to home school clearly do much more of that than those who
dont, and the fundys who choose to do that STILL end up with a lower IQ than average,
and that blows a FUCKING great hole in your completely silly claim that IQ testing just
measures how much effort the parents have put into teaching the basics to their kids.
Like hell it does.
Post by PerseusSo they would be able to correct in time any
troubles the kids could have with this or that matter.
Yes, and one of the most striking things about the kids the stupid SDAs
drag around with them when they knock on everyone's doors is how
much more passive and well behaved those kids are than average.
They do however have a lower IQ than average.
Post by PerseusThen, I was not talking of the "home schooling" of the fundies,
Yes, but that is what blows a fucking great hole in your stupid
claim that all IQ testing does is measure how well the parents
have done in teaching their kids the basic literacy and numeracy.
In fact one of the most striking things thats seen with very
high IQ kids is that some of them have even managed to teach
themselves how to read by just watching Sesame St etc and
have shocked their parents speachless when they demonstrate
that they can read without having been taught to read.
That AGAIN blows a FUCKING great hole in your stupid claim about
what IQ tests measure.
Post by Perseusthat are mostly interested in teaching them the Bible and their religious tenets.
Wrong. They have to teach them how to read and write and basic
numeracy before they can teach them that other shit, so they can read
that pathetic collection of fairy storys in what is quite archaic language.
Post by PerseusAnd to downgrade the logic faculties of the kids
to make them coherent with their bible visions.
They dont do that either. It isnt even possible.
The most they can ever do is fill their 'minds' with the
silly shit out of that pathetic collection of fairy storys.
Post by PerseusThere is a whole world between learning to speak and learning to speak.
You've just had a massive 'brain' fart.
Post by PerseusTo speak invokes some magnitude.
That makes no sense in english.
Post by PerseusIt means not only a vocabulary, for a vocabulary can be more or less
developed; it means also some understanding of complex phrases,
and so capacity to retain verbal messages of diverse extension.
And that all happens completely automatically with the higher IQ kids.
Post by PerseusIt involves to understand some basic logic,
that can be more or less extensive.
And that all happens completely automatically with the higher IQ kids.
Its only the stupid than need to be taught that stuff.
Post by PerseusIt involves some elemental logic with numbers and basic operations.
And that all happens completely automatically with the higher IQ kids.
Its only the stupid than need to be taught that stuff.
Post by PerseusAll the most a child would master all this when he goes to
school, the most advanced he will be to profit of the school.
Thats utterly mangled all over again. What you can see with the higher
IQ kids that have grasped that stuff before they show up in school is
that they find school very boring and useless because the teacher is
concentrating on teaching the kids what those higher IQ kids already know.
Post by PerseusThose that start with a head they will remain so for the rest of their lives.
Yes, but thats essentially because its the higher IQ kids that can do what
the other kids have to be taught in school before they show up at school.
Post by PerseusSo, if you were more prone to examine critically a question
before replaying, would not be rash to say fool things.
You were the one that made a VERY spectacular fool of yourself repeatedly
with your mindless silly claims about what IQ testing actually measures.
Like I said, you dont have a fucking clue.
